Hostile And Unplesant Metal Fans:

Posted: December 29, 2013 by kingcrimsonprog in Misc Music Articles

Sometimes I find myself thinking “everyone is entitled to their own opinion.”
More and more these days I find myself asking why it is an entitlement. I find myself now thinking that it shouldn’t be an entitlement at all; it should be a privilege, a privilege which you earn by being informed, logical, and willing to express it in a tactful, mature and reasonable way.

I’m not some advocate of radically over-the-top political correctness to the point where it stops making common sense, but I do believe that people should stop being so unpleasant, hostile and downright confrontational on matters of subjectivity.

I recently read a Blog about how a certain high profile Metal musician was supposedly a hack. Fair enough. If you’ve noticed a pattern of artistically-questionable decision-making by that artist then feel free to document it, feel free to question it, but why do you have to get so worked-up and rude about it? Why do you have to break out homophobic bigoted comments for people who disagree? Why does the whole thing have to be written in a spiteful and undeservingly superior tone?

I’ve also read a few dozen blogs about bands that were overrated or undeserving of their success. I’ve watched those youtube-sensation videos of teenagers arguing into the camera about why certain trendy bands are good or bad. Even the people disagreeing with the uninformed and poorly expressed originals are usually haughty and superior. Instead of educating people out of their ignorance, people choose to just pour derision on them in a pseudo-intellectual manner that makes them look as childish as the people they are complaining about.

Why can nobody respectfully disagree with each other anymore? Why does everybody have to churlishly insult each other and go out of their way to be as needlessly offensive and confrontational as possible? Is it really that fulfilling and enjoyable to be a jerk to people?

Current Metal Internet Culture Example:

Blogger: This fucking faggot is a talentless sack of shit. He is so fucking useless that I hope he gets murdered.
Commenter: I love that musician.You are a pathetic retard and I hope you get raped.
Blogger: Fuck you, go to hell you cock-sucking peadophile, your parents have down-syndrome and I hope you get AIDs.

Hypothetical Better Metal Internet Culture Example:

Blogger: Here are a list of well-explained reasons why I dislike this piece of media.
Commenter: I love that piece of media. I respectfully disagree with you.
Blogger: That doesn’t change my mind. I strongly dislike them. You know what? This is all subjective anyway. Let’s agree to disagree.

Ok, I know that is an amusingly over-simplified and slightly awkward/robotic alternative to what we currently have, but you get the gist of it. There’s no need to be so vicious and hateful over something as subjective as music.

Homophobia and offending the disabled have no place in a discussion about whether some piece of music is good or not, or whether some artist is credible or not. Even calling each other virgins, idiots, losers, saddos and any other deliberately goading remark is a bit far – there’s no need to damage each other’s self-esteem over a simple disagreement over a matter of taste. I definitely think everyone should stop wishing serious illness and injury on each other. Its just unnecessary. Who wants that sort of aggro in their life?

Maybe you feel that Metallica sold-out. Good. Write about that, it may be interesting. Maybe you don’t think Metallica sold-out. Good. Write about that, it may be interesting. Just maybe don’t write about musicians with the same vitriol and nastiness that racists use in their hate-speech.

Next time you want to tell someone to drown in their own shit just because they told you that your assessment of a piece of art didn’t chime with their own, instead try and understand why they feel that way and start a discussion with them, maybe you’ll have someone interesting to talk to and share opinions with.

Next time you see something about a band you like that is poorly written and overtly offensive, instead of telling them that they have severe learning disabilities and support Adolf Hitler’s cause, maybe instead work with them and tell them how to better express themselves. Ask them if they’d be willing to edit the comments to remove the slurs. Most of it is probably written in-the-moment by people who mightn’t know any better and they may benefit much more from supportive and constructive criticism than outright argument and attack.

I know its only the internet, but everyone on here is a human being. Let’s try and stop being so hurtful to each other and at least try to treat each other with consideration and respect.

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Comments
  1. mikeladano says:

    This is why I don’t comment on Blabbermouth anymore.

    I find the discussions here on WordPress so much more satisfying. We all get heated sometimes when defending our preferences, especially something like music that has social and personal meaning that is different for everyone.

    Thankfully I’ll count yourself and the others here as writers who can genuinely converse about music at a respectful and intelligent level!

    Beer me!

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    • I know what you mean; its sometimes hard to look at the Blabbermouth, Metal-Sucks or Youtube Comments just because so many people choose to be absolutely nasty to eachother and perpetuate so much homophobic, racist, sexist and downright bullying behavior at times.

      I much prefer people debating and informing than just being cruel and abusive. Debating is interesting to read. Passion is entertaining. Up to a point. I get the idea of “robust banter” and being able to make fun of friends in a fun way in your own time, but some of the stuff you read on time is just so venomous of OTT.

      They always say in documentaries about how we’re all one big tribe or family or community, and the people in the comments sections really challenge that notion sometimes.

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      • mikeladano says:

        Amazon is not the great place either, although their TOS allow them to delete really offensive comments, it’s still pretty nasty. On the American Amazon site anyway. They don’t allow comments on the Canadian one. Weird eh?

        I think it many regards we are less like a tribe, and more like a small neighborhood — including the trashy ones with rusting shit on the front lawns who are incapable of speaking without dropping the “F” bomb.

        Don’t get me wrong I like dropping an “F” bomb for comedic value, but “Fuck off” is not a valid argument vis-a-vis why you’re right and I’m wrong about a band.

        If you stood up and told me that you consider Justin Bieber to be one of the greatest living musicians today, I’d have to listen to you and at least dedicate part of my brain to understanding what you have to say. Rather than just think of clever “gay” comments about liking Bieber.

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      • Exactly!

        I wish more people thought along these lines.

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      • mikeladano says:

        As my mother in law says, “You can’t fix stupid”!

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  2. Also, the British Amazon is actually pretty tame and reasonable.

    You do get some nastiness but its pretty isolated and not the usual thing you see. I use the American one too and its definitely a lot less polite at times.

    I’d like to say its to do with the British public being polite, but I think its just a coincidence. Metal Hammer Magazine UK’s facebook page is full of some really offensive confrontational posts, all day everyday ha ha.

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